《乔布斯传》背后的故事（节选）

    以下是这次采访的完整记录，略有编辑。

    沃尔特•艾萨克森：非常感谢大家。很高兴回到联邦俱乐部，似乎听众比我上次来的时候多了，还搬到了马克霍普金斯洲际酒店，真是想不到啊！

    亚当•拉什斯基：联邦俱乐部的听众比你上次来的时候多，这是有原因的，那是因为现在你来了。

    沃尔特：没这回事，人们是冲着史蒂夫•乔布斯来的。

    亚当：是啊，说得对。沃尔特，我真心希望和你谈谈这位商界传奇人物的一生，以及他所取得的巨大成就。

    沃尔特：非常感谢大家。亚当和我曾在时代公司（Time, Inc）共事，他一直在跑苹果公司的新闻，这本书的脚注中到处都有他的影子。顺便说一下，亚当在《财富》杂志（Fortune）所做的一些精彩报道将很快收录到一本即将出版的大作中。

    亚当：谢谢。顺便谢谢你的那些脚注。我在此深表谢意。

    沃尔特：嗯，乔布斯曾经说过，优秀的艺术家靠抄，伟大的艺术家靠偷。我们都是黑客记者，但该给出处还得给出处，该加脚注还得加脚注。

    亚当：我们是借，不是偷。

    沃尔特：我们是借，但我们也加脚注。就是这么回事。

    亚当：我提前通过我的人际关系收集了一些问题，很快与会者也将踊跃提问。已经读过你的书的人提出的绝大多数问题都涉及乔布斯的个性。因此，我想我们不妨就从这里开始。在你先前的采访中，我发现你把乔布斯描述成一个易怒的人。对此我的观察是，我5岁大的女儿在上学前不愿意穿鞋，这时候她就会发脾气。

    沃尔特：是的。但这完全是两码事！

    Below is a full, lightly edited transcript of the interview.

    Walter Isaacson: Thank you very much. It's great to be back at the Commonwealth Club, which somehow seems to have grown since I was last here--and moved to the Mark Hopkins, how odd!

    Adam Lashinsky: There's a reason why the Commonwealth Club has grown, since you were last here, and that's because you're here.

    WI: Well, no, it's because of Steve Jobs.

    AL: Yeah, fair enough. Well, Walter, I do want to say to you in a career of superlatives, congratulations on a superlative accomplishment.

    WI: Thank you very much. Adam and I worked together at Time, Inc, and Adam has been covering Apple. He's all over the footnotes of this book, by the way, some of Adam's great stories at Fortune, which soon will be expanded in this great upcoming book.

    AL: Thank you. Thank you for those footnotes, by the way. I appreciate it.

    WI: Well, Steve once said that good artists copy, great artists steal. And us hack journalists, we give credit where credit's due and we footnote.

    AL: We borrow! We don't steal.

    WI: We borrow, but we footnote. Yes.

    AL: So, I solicited questions ahead of time from my network, and we will be inundated with questions from the floor very shortly. The overwhelming majority of the questions of people who have already read your book, want to talk about Steve's personality. So, I'd like to start there. I've seen in your previous interviews that you have described him as petulant. My observation on that is that when my five-year-old daughter refuses to put on her shoes before going to school, she's being petulant.

    WI: Right. There's a big difference!