华尔街第一夫人传奇（节选）

    现在，80岁的西伯特仍经营着Muriel Siebert & Co.，这是她获得纽交所席位时建立的证券经纪公司，有七家分支机构。控股公司Siebert Financial Corp.在纳斯达克（Nasdaq）市场上市时，Muriel Siebert & Co.在廉价证券经纪领域处于领先位置。这家公司已今非昔比，其股票也鲜有交易，但西伯特在多数时间里仍然坚持工作，而且背后的电视总是在播放有线电视台的金融节目。她的办公室在曼哈顿中城，唇膏大厦第17层。最近西伯特在这里接受了本刊的采访，回顾了她多姿多彩的职业生涯。西伯特的爱犬——一只名叫“母夜叉”的吉娃娃卧在她的腿上。她的周围摆放着装在镜框里的杂志文章（包括本刊）以及她和多位美国总统的合影。西伯特谈起了最近提到过的话题——承担风险、女权主义、道德规范以及她的非营利性财务知识课程。现在这门课已经成为纽约市许多公立高中经济课程的一部分。以下为编辑过的采访实录：

    和50年前开着斯蒂旁克到这里时相比，你长了些什么见识？

    我想我见到了形形色色的人，并且学到了许多有关人的东西，这些在克利夫兰海茨可学不到。

    这些是好还是坏？

    嗯，人有好的一面，也有一些负面的东西。

    现在人们挂在嘴边的是麦道夫？安然（Enron）？还是2008年的金融风波？或者都有？

    从商业角度讲，这些都已成为过去，现在的问题不多。但公众并没有掌握他们应该了解的信息。市场成交量一再上升，透明度却一再下降。正是透明度一直让我们的市场与众不同。现在华尔街的道德规范已经和我刚入行时不同。现在有离岸交易，有公开交易所之外的“暗池”交易。这不公平。

    你觉得这样的变化是从什么时候开始的？

    15年前我就抱怨过，金融行业出现的一些事物无法让人理解。比如衍生产品。有很多人都赚了大钱——而且他们并不是天才。然而，他们中的一些人却敢自吹自擂：“我就是这么棒!”

    如果回到年轻时，你还会到华尔街来寻求发展吗？或者你可能会开车到其他地方？比如硅谷（Silicon Valley）？

    如果有那种天分的话，我可能会去那儿。我是说，硅谷有华尔街没有的机会。交易大厅这种东西如今已经不存在了。(财富中文网)

    译者：涛

    Now 80, she still runs Muriel Siebert & Co., the seven-branch brokerage house she founded when she bought her NYSE seat. The firm was a pioneer in discount brokerage, in time going public (SIEB, for the Siebert Financial Corp., on the Nasdaq). The firm isn't what it used to be and its stock rarely trades, but Siebert still is at work most days, with the cable financial shows always on in the background. In her 17th-floor office in the Lipstick Building in midtown Manhattan, Siebert recently sat down with Fortune to look back on her storied career. With her beloved Chihuahua, "Monster Girl," in her lap, and surrounded by framed magazine stories (including in Fortune) and photos of herself with American presidents, Siebert talked recently talked with about risk-taking, feminism, ethics and her nonprofit financial-literacy program that today is part of the economics curriculum at many New York City public high schools. Edited excerpts:

    What do you know now that you didn't know 50 years ago when you drove your Studebaker here?

    I think I've been exposed to a wide variety of people and learned a lot about people that I wouldn't have learned in Cleveland Heights.

    Good things or bad things?

    Well, there are good things in people and there are some negative things in people.

    Are we talking about Madoff or Enron or the financial meltdown in 2008, or all of it?

    For the amount of business that's done, there are relatively few problems. But the public doesn't have the same information it is entitled to. The volume of trades goes up and up, but there is less and less transparency. Transparency is what always set our markets apart. I don't see the same ethics on the Street as when I came in. They trade offshore, they trade in "dark pools" off of public exchanges. It's unfair.

    When do you mark the beginning of the change?

    I was complaining about financial things that I couldn't understand in our industry 15 years ago. Like derivatives. There are a lot of people that have made a lot of money -- and they aren't geniuses. And yet some of them just look at themselves and say, "I am the great I am!"

    If you were young again, would you still come to Wall Street to find your way? Or might you drive to somewhere else, like Silicon Valley?

    Maybe if I had the talent I'd go out there. I mean, Wall Street doesn't have the same opportunity. There's no floor anymore.