Zuora创始人兼首席执行官：成功三分靠自身，七分靠环境

    8. 你在学校学到的最重要的东西是什么？

    我要说两点。我学的专业是电气工程，说不上喜欢，这也是今天我没有成为电气工程师的原因。我记得在大二和大三，我在修专业课的同时还得去上筛选课程。我从中学到的是，如果专心致志，就能做成任何事情。这一课真的很重要。这会让你变得不那么容易气馁。我觉得随着年龄的增长，我们会习惯于待在让自己舒服的环境里，这会让我们失去接纳新事物的能力。

    现在我有了一个四岁的女儿，她让我看到了截然相反的情况，什么东西她都会去探索。我觉得自己能学会任何东西的观念真的很重要。第二点是，进入商学院后会学到会计等课程。这些课程都很好，但我在经营方面的重要经验是，最终发挥作用的还是人。真正重要的是组织行为课程。斯坦福大学（Stanford）有一门课叫“Touchy-Feely”，内容就是人际关系。学生们学的是自己如何影响别人以及别人怎么看待自己。这门课很棒，因为最终起作用的还是人，是人际关系。

    9. 你在有生之年希望实现的个人目标或职业目标是什么？

    我想改变软件行业。我觉得在Salesforce我们做到了这一点，但我还想再来一次。我想让这个行业变得更好，我希望自己创造出的东西能成为企业软件行业的学习对象。10. 你怎样保持平衡的生活？

    10. 你怎样保持平衡的生活？

    实际上，个人生活中的我和工作时的我大相径庭。在工作中，我的方向非常明确，非常集中于自己的目标。不把注意力放在工作上时，我更愿意顺其自然，随遇而安。最近我一直陪着我女儿，而且过的很快乐。我的做法是无为而治，不设置条条框框或者目标，就是跟她待在一起。她想做什么，我们就一起去做。（财富中文网）

    译者：Charlie

    8. What was the most important thing you learned in school?

    I’d say there are two things. I was an electrical engineering major. I can’t say that I liked it, and that’s why I’m not an electrical engineer today. I remember learning this while having to take weed out courses in my sophomore and junior years: What it taught me was that you can do anything if you put your mind to it. That was a really important lesson. You become less daunted about things. I think as we grow, we get so used to being in our comfort zone that we lose the ability to tackle new things.

    Now that I have a 4-year-old, and I see the opposite, where she’s tackling everything, I think the idea that you can learn anything is really important. The second thing is that when you go to business school and you learn about accounting and such, that’s all nice, but the big lesson in business is that at the end of the day, it’s all about people. It’s the organizational behavior classes are really important. Stanford has this class called “Touchy-Feely,” which is all about interpersonal dynamics. You learn about how you impact people and how people perceive you. It was a great class because in the end, it’s all about people; it’s all about relationships.

    9. What is one goal—either personal or professional—that you would like to accomplish during your lifetime?

    I’d like to change the software industry. I feel like we did that once at Salesforce, but I’d like to do it again. I’d like to change it for the better and create something that the enterprise software industry can learn from.

    10. What do you do to live a balanced life?

    I’m actually very different in my personal life than in my professional live. At work, I’m very directed, very goal-oriented. When I’m not focused on work, I prefer to go with the flow, go where things take me. These days I have fun hanging out with my daughter. What I try to do is to let go, not dictate structure or goals, and just hang out with her. Whatever she wants to do, we’ll go do.