改变北京天际线的两位女性

    尽管双方的合作相当成功，但哈迪德并非SOHO在北京和上海的新建筑项目的不二人选。张欣在接受《财富》（Fortune）采访时表示，哈迪德“都是通过公平竞争赢得项目，并不是我直接找她的。”她说：“我们邀请了多位建筑师投标，每次哈迪德都能提出最优秀的设计方案。”（张欣随后补充道，哈迪德胜出的次数太多了，她甚至担心其他建筑师都不好意思为其他项目创作设计草图。）

    哈迪德表示：“我们的合作一直非常融洽。想要在建筑设计领域找到好搭档并不容易。”

    两位女性都在男性主导的行业干得风生水起，但她们也经历过不少磨难。哈迪德表示，她不是一开始就成功的，比如说，建筑界最初不太愿意接受她独特的设计方案。而张欣早年在香港的一家工厂当过工人，直到她买了一张前往伦敦求学的单程机票并随后进入银行业才改变了命运。

    她们对于努力工作的态度也不谋而合。张欣既是一位母亲，也是公司的首席执行官，她对《财富》说，女性都是多面手，如果确立了基本原则，就能同时胜任这两种角色。哈迪德在台上回应了张欣的观点：“我认为每个人都应该一直尽最大努力工作……这会让自己变得更好，也让社会变得更好。”

    张欣和哈迪德目前正在合作建造北京丽泽桥地区的一栋办公大楼，预计将于2017年左右完工。该大楼很可能会拥有世界上最高的中庭。

    谈话即将结束时，随着嘉宾们开始品尝甜点，张欣问哈迪德是否会退休。哈迪德答道：“我不认为自己会退休。我肯定会在某天开始放缓工作节奏，但我不知道退休以后能干什么，我对编织或烹饪都不太感兴趣。”（财富中文网）

    译者：严匡正

    Despite their partnership’s success, Hadid wasn’t a shoe-in for SOHO’s next projects in Beijing and Shanghai. Zhang told Fortune that Hadid “always wins the work through competition. It’s not like I went to her,” she said. “We invite a few architects and Zaha always comes up with the best design.” (Zhang later added that Hadid has won so many times that she fears other architects will shy away from creating renderings for other projects.)

    “It’s been a great partnership,” Hadid said. “It’s not easy in this industry to find good partners.”

    Both women have thrived in male-dominated industries, but not without struggles. Hadid said she didn’t immediately find success, citing the architectural industry’s hesitance to embrace her unique building designs. Zhang got her start working in Hong Kong factories before purchasing a one-way ticket to London to study and become a banker.

    The women also share a similar stance on working hard. Zhang, who juggles being a mother and a CEO, told Fortune that women are versatile and can juggle both roles by having discipline. Onstage, Hadid echoed Zhang’s sentiments: “I think everybody should work extremely hard all the time… I think it’s a way to better yourself and to better society.”

    Zhang and Hadid are currently working on an office building that will debut in Beijing’s Lize Bridge area around 2017. It will include what’s likely to be the world’s tallest atrium.

    Near the end of the women’s conversation, as guests nibbled on dessert, Zhang asked Hadid if she will ever retire. “I don’t think so,” Hadid responded. “I’m sure I’ll someday slow down. I don’t know what I’d do in retirement. I’m not into knitting or cooking.”