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特斯拉(Tesla)CEO埃隆·马斯克在与美国前总统唐纳德·特朗普的访谈中,就气候问题发表了一番颇具争议的言论,遭到亿万富翁维诺德·科斯拉的抨击。
太阳计算机系统(Sun Microsystems)和科斯拉风险投资公司(Khosla Ventures)的联合创始人科斯拉引用《卫报》发表的一篇文章嘲讽马斯克,称他与特朗普的气候对话“愚蠢到不能用愚蠢来形容”。
马斯克对科斯拉的帖子进行了回击,他羞辱了《卫报》,并质问科斯拉是否真正听了访谈内容。
“史上最愚蠢的气候对话”:专家评论马斯克-特朗普访谈。愚蠢到不能用愚蠢来形容。https://t.co/YUn04KEyV6
——维诺德·科斯拉(@vkhosla)2024年8月14日
科斯拉回应称,两人的对话“是愚蠢的”,虽然他预料到特朗普对气候科学知之甚少,但马斯克在气候变化问题上的言论,却回避了责任。
他写道:“我从未期待特朗普能够理解不同二氧化碳PPM的细微区别及其后果,而且他向可以说在气候方面做出最多努力的人求助,这是非常明智的。但我认为你一直在淡化现实,你放弃了自己应该承担的责任。”
科斯拉提到的PPM是以百万分比测量的大气二氧化碳浓度。他曾投资了DoorDash和Affirm等公司。大气中二氧化碳这种温室气体的浓度,对于环境科学至关重要,而且会影响气候。科斯拉确认,他确实听完了马斯克在访谈中的发言。他写道:“我确实听完了气候部分,而且我也确实认为那一段很愚蠢。”
科斯拉是一位重要的清洁技术投资者,他的风险投资公司涉足交通、能源和制造等领域。
周一,在X上直播的两个小时访谈中,电动汽车公司特斯拉的CEO马斯克淡化了气候变化的影响。他表示,二氧化碳浓度升高最严重的后果,是让人在某一时刻的呼吸变得更加困难。
马斯克在访谈中说道:“全球变暖确实存在一些风险,但我认为风险并不像许多人所说的那么高,如果大气中的二氧化碳浓度长期升高,最终这可能让人们出现呼吸不适。”
马斯克称,在大气中的二氧化碳浓度达到1000 PPM后,即目前浓度的超过两倍,人们会出现“头痛和恶心”。虽然这种程度的大气二氧化碳浓度可能产生其他影响,但气候科学家和活动家们一直警告,即使远低于这个水平的二氧化碳浓度,就可能对环境产生危害。美国国家海洋和大气管理局(National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)表示,地球上的大气二氧化碳浓度已经5,000万年没有达到或超过800 PPM。大气二氧化碳浓度超过1,000 PPM对环境的影响,可能导致极地冰盖融化、洪水、海洋酸化和生物多样性损失。
马斯克还呼吁“随着时间的推移”,美国经济停止使用石油和天然气,并向可持续能源经济转型,因为化石燃料并非无穷无尽的。
马斯克对特朗普表示:“我认为我们不应该妖魔化石油和天然气行业。如果我们马上停止使用石油和天然气,我们都会挨饿,经济将崩溃。”
马斯克补充说,能源转型势在必行,但与气候专家的观点截然相反,他认为我们距离迫在眉睫的气候灾难还有充足的时间。
他说道:“这并不像房子马上要着火一样十万火急,但我认为我们需要逐步推进这件事。”
今年4月,联合国气候变化总干事表示,各国政府和商界领袖有两年时间采取行动,避免气候变化最严重的影响。(财富中文网)
译者:刘进龙
审校:汪皓
特斯拉(Tesla)CEO埃隆·马斯克在与美国前总统唐纳德·特朗普的访谈中,就气候问题发表了一番颇具争议的言论,遭到亿万富翁维诺德·科斯拉的抨击。
太阳计算机系统(Sun Microsystems)和科斯拉风险投资公司(Khosla Ventures)的联合创始人科斯拉引用《卫报》发表的一篇文章嘲讽马斯克,称他与特朗普的气候对话“愚蠢到不能用愚蠢来形容”。
马斯克对科斯拉的帖子进行了回击,他羞辱了《卫报》,并质问科斯拉是否真正听了访谈内容。
“史上最愚蠢的气候对话”:专家评论马斯克-特朗普访谈。愚蠢到不能用愚蠢来形容。https://t.co/YUn04KEyV6
——维诺德·科斯拉(@vkhosla)2024年8月14日
科斯拉回应称,两人的对话“是愚蠢的”,虽然他预料到特朗普对气候科学知之甚少,但马斯克在气候变化问题上的言论,却回避了责任。
他写道:“我从未期待特朗普能够理解不同二氧化碳PPM的细微区别及其后果,而且他向可以说在气候方面做出最多努力的人求助,这是非常明智的。但我认为你一直在淡化现实,你放弃了自己应该承担的责任。”
科斯拉提到的PPM是以百万分比测量的大气二氧化碳浓度。他曾投资了DoorDash和Affirm等公司。大气中二氧化碳这种温室气体的浓度,对于环境科学至关重要,而且会影响气候。科斯拉确认,他确实听完了马斯克在访谈中的发言。他写道:“我确实听完了气候部分,而且我也确实认为那一段很愚蠢。”
科斯拉是一位重要的清洁技术投资者,他的风险投资公司涉足交通、能源和制造等领域。
周一,在X上直播的两个小时访谈中,电动汽车公司特斯拉的CEO马斯克淡化了气候变化的影响。他表示,二氧化碳浓度升高最严重的后果,是让人在某一时刻的呼吸变得更加困难。
马斯克在访谈中说道:“全球变暖确实存在一些风险,但我认为风险并不像许多人所说的那么高,如果大气中的二氧化碳浓度长期升高,最终这可能让人们出现呼吸不适。”
马斯克称,在大气中的二氧化碳浓度达到1000 PPM后,即目前浓度的超过两倍,人们会出现“头痛和恶心”。虽然这种程度的大气二氧化碳浓度可能产生其他影响,但气候科学家和活动家们一直警告,即使远低于这个水平的二氧化碳浓度,就可能对环境产生危害。美国国家海洋和大气管理局(National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)表示,地球上的大气二氧化碳浓度已经5,000万年没有达到或超过800 PPM。大气二氧化碳浓度超过1,000 PPM对环境的影响,可能导致极地冰盖融化、洪水、海洋酸化和生物多样性损失。
马斯克还呼吁“随着时间的推移”,美国经济停止使用石油和天然气,并向可持续能源经济转型,因为化石燃料并非无穷无尽的。
马斯克对特朗普表示:“我认为我们不应该妖魔化石油和天然气行业。如果我们马上停止使用石油和天然气,我们都会挨饿,经济将崩溃。”
马斯克补充说,能源转型势在必行,但与气候专家的观点截然相反,他认为我们距离迫在眉睫的气候灾难还有充足的时间。
他说道:“这并不像房子马上要着火一样十万火急,但我认为我们需要逐步推进这件事。”
今年4月,联合国气候变化总干事表示,各国政府和商界领袖有两年时间采取行动,避免气候变化最严重的影响。(财富中文网)
译者:刘进龙
审校:汪皓
Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s controversial climate comments during his interview with former president Donald Trump prompted backlash on X from fellow billionaire Vinod Khosla.
Quoting an article from the Guardian, Khosla, the cofounder of Sun Microsystems and venture capital firm Khosla Ventures, ridiculed Musk, saying his climate conversation with Trump was “Infact soooo dumb, it should not be just called dumb.”
Musk shot back in a reply to Khosla’s post by insulting the Guardian and asking if Khosla had actually listened to the interview.
‘The dumbest climate conversation of all time’: experts on the Musk-Trump interview. Infact soooo dumb, it should not be just called dumb. https://t.co/YUn04KEyV6
— Vinod Khosla (@vkhosla) August 14, 2024
Khosla replied that the conversation was “dumb” and that while he expected Trump to not be as well versed on climate science, Musk skirted responsibility with his words on climate change.
“I don’t expect @realDonaldTrumpto know the nuances of various CO2 ppm levels and their consequences, and him reaching out to the person who has arguably done more for climate than anyone else is pretty sensible. You had a responsibility that I think you largely abdicated by downplaying the reality of things,” he wrote.
Khosla, who invested in DoorDash and Affirm, was referring to atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations, measured in parts per million. The atmospheric level of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide is crucial to environmental science and impacts the climate. Khosla confirmed that he, in fact, heard Musk’s comments in the interview. “I did listen to the climate part and yeah, I do think it was dumb,” he wrote.
For his part, Khosla is a major clean tech investor across transit, energy, and manufacturing through his venture capital firm.
During the two-hour live interview on X Monday, the electric vehicle CEO minimized the impact of climate change, saying that the worst elevated carbon dioxide levels can do is make it harder to breathe at a certain point.
“There is some risk, I think the risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming, but I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe,” said Musk during the interview.
After the atmosphere surpasses 1,000 parts per million of carbon dioxide, more than double the concentration now, people can get “headaches and nausea,” Musk said. Although this level of atmospheric carbon dioxide could lead to those effects, climate scientists and activists have warned that a much lower concentration of co2 could wreak havoc on the environment. Atmospheric carbon dioxide 800 parts per million or more hasn’t been seen on Earth for 50 million years, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The environmental hit of surpassing 1,000 parts per million could lead to melting polar ice caps, flooding, ocean acidification, and potential biodiversity loss.
Musk also called for the U.S. economy to wean off oil and gas and transition to a sustainable energy economy “over time” because fossil fuels aren’t infinite.
“I don’t think we should vilify the oil and gas industry,” Musk told Trump. “If we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be starving and the economy would collapse.
Musk added that an energy transition needs to occur, but there’s still plenty of time before an imminent climate disaster, contrary to the opinion of climate experts.
“It’s not like the house is on fire immediately, but I think it is something we need to move towards,” he said.
In April, the United Nations’ climate chief said government and business leaders have two years to take action and avoid the worst effects of climate change.