9:17:库彻介绍了上周公布的电影片段(见下图),恰巧是惠普(HP)第三次拒绝沃兹尼亚克关于苹果I代创意的片段。掌声响起。 9:19:库彻谈到史蒂夫•乔布斯对他个人的意义。“他是一位英雄,他一直是我在工作(作为天使投资人)中努力学习的偶像。”库彻读剧本的时候,看到一些不太适合搬上大荧幕的内容。“我当时的想法是,如果一定要讲这个故事,那么我希望能以对我的偶像致敬的方式进行演绎。”现在没有人知道林肯总统是如何走路的,但所有人都有关于乔布斯的记忆。“扮演乔布斯真的让人提心吊胆。” 9:22:库彻称自己花了数月时间学习乔布斯。他创建了一个语音云文件,里面是乔布斯对别人说过的话。开始与大家分享乔布斯的话。“你得让自己听起来非常聪明。”试图解构在里德学院(Reed College)读书时的乔布斯和首次与沃兹尼亚克共事时的乔布斯。曾与艾伦•凯会面,聊了乔布斯在帕洛阿尔托研究中心的情况。与OS X之父艾维•特瓦内安会面。拜访了曾在伍德赛德与乔布斯一同居住的麦克•霍里。“我们希望弄明白,努力创建没人想要的东西的创业者,到底是怎样一个人。” 9:25:加德称,接拍这部电影之前,他对沃兹尼亚克的了解仅限于《与明星共舞》(Dancing With the Stars)。 9:27:库彻说他与加德的第一次对话是通过Skype进行的。约什在一开始就明白,自己并不想单纯模仿沃兹尼亚克。“我希望真的能演出那个家伙的内在,而不是外形。” 9:29:与乔布斯家人的互动?在拍摄乔布斯最初的家时,他们发现了乔布斯绘制的草图。拜访了乔布斯的继母和妹妹。加德说:“在相同的地方看到往事重现,对他们来说太不真实了。” 9:30:你真的变成一名果实主义者,还因此把身体搞垮了?“没错。我读过有关无粘液饮食的文章。我讨论过葡萄中糖分的价值,以及粘液作为疾病源头所带来的危害。”一个月内,他只吃水果和蔬菜,喝胡萝卜汁。结果出现胃痛症状。又过了一个月。住进了医院。一周后发现,他得了胰腺炎,令人震惊。 9:33:肯特称他已看过电影,影片很精彩。“如果看到电影里的史蒂夫•乔布斯,所有人都会认为那就是史蒂夫•乔布斯。” 9:34:被问到关于雅达利公司(Atari)支付的报酬,乔布斯向沃兹尼亚克撒谎的事。加德称,从那时起,沃兹尼亚克才真正了解了乔布斯。 9:35:库彻称,对于表演来说,有一个原则,就是不要评判你的角色。相反,要努力为角色辩护。他曾为商业上屡屡失败的沃兹尼亚克辩护,称乔布斯聘用沃兹尼亚克来工作,而他也不负优秀企业家的身份,成功找到了赚钱的方法。“历史告诉我们,他拿走了所有利润。” 9:38:(乔布斯)是一个英雄吗?库彻说:我认为,没有人像他那样关注产品,关注产品对用户的影响。 |
9:17: Kutcher Introduces the clip that was released last week (see below) that set right after HP rejected Woz's idea for the Apple I the third time. Applause. 9:19: Kutcher talks about what Steve Jobs meant to him as a person. "This iconic hero and someone I try to emulate in my work (as an angel investor)." When he read the screen play there were some things that just didn't sit right. "I was like whoa, if this story is going to get told I want to get it told in a way that honors my hero." Nobody knows how Lincoln walked, but everybody has a memory of Jobs. "Playing that guy was really really scary." 9:22 Says he spent months learning about Jobs. Created a sound cloud file of the things he said to people. Starting using Jobs quotes with people. "You get to sound really smart." Trying to deconstruct who Jobs was at Reed College and when he first worked with Woz. Met with Alan Kay, talked about what it was like at Parc. Met with Avie Tevanian who built the backbone of OS X. Met with Mike Holley (sp?), who lived with him at Woodside. "We wanted to capture what it was like to be an entrepreneur trying to build this thing that nobody wanted." 9:25: Gad says his knowledge of Woz before he started the project was Dancing With the Stars. (Big laugh.) 9:27: Kutcher says his first conversation with Gad was a Skype call. Josh understood before he started that he didn't want to do a Woz imitation. "I want to really get the guy." 9:29: Interaction with the family? When they shot at the original Jobs home they found sketches Jobs had done. Met his stepmother and sister. Gad: "It was surreal for them to see this transpire again in the same place where it happened." 9:31: True that you became a fructarian and got sick? "Yeah. I read about the mucus-free diet. I talks about the value of the sugar in grapes and the damage mucus does as a harbor for disease." For a month he ate only fruit and vegetables and drank carrot juice. Bad stomach pain. Doubled over. Went to hospital. A week later discovered that he had developed pancreatitis, which is kind of scary. 9:33: Kent says he saw the film and it's fantastic. "Everybody you see Steve Jobs in the movie, it IS Steve Jobs." 9:34: Asks about the incident where Jobs lied to Woz early on about how much he got paid for the Atari gig. Gad says that's when Woz learned who he was dealing with. 9:35: Kutcher says there's a rule in acting to never judge your character. Instead, try to justify it. He justified stiffing Woz that he hired Woz to do a job and like a good entrepreneur he found a way to take his margin. "Historically we're told he took the margin." 9:38: A hero? Kutcher: I don't think we've had anyone who cared as much about the product as it affected the user. |
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